I have not found video yet on this story, just saw it on the boob-toob. She freaks out;
Mean old Hillary Clinton went to Africa’s Democratic Republic of the Congo today to discuss god knows what, current giraffe prices? Because it’s Africa?? And while she was taking questions in Kinshasa, some curious “Congolese university student†had the gall to “ask her for her husband’s thinking on an international financial matter.†But instead of just laughing it off with a “Ha ha, you don’t respect women in your country, which is why you have a rape epidemic,†Hillary Clinton murdered the student!
“You want me to tell you what my husband thinks?†she replied incredulously when the male student asked her what “Mr. Clinton†thought of World Bank concerns about a multi-billion-dollar Chinese loan offer to the Congo.
“My husband is not secretary of state, I am,†an obviously annoyed Clinton said sharply. “If you want my opinion, I will tell you my opinion. I am not going to be channeling my husband.â€
The question was left unanswered as the moderator of the event quickly moved on.
Actually, a translator F’d up and the student asked about Obama, not Slick Willy. And Hillary apologized later. But her freakout session is pretty funny.
I actually shoved my chair back when this pic popped up. Scary!
Wait til you see the video, what a total b…..!
Hillary: Bug Up The Backside, Blames Others…
Trouble in paradise. Mrs. Bill Clinton shows her indignation once again. Indignation for the question asked of her, for the people asking the question and toward Mr. Bill Clinton. How dare someone ask Hillary what Bill thinks. After all, she’s the important one now, not Bill. If you don’t believe me, ask her. Hillary will not “channel†Bill, preferring instead to limit her channeling to Eleanor Roosevelt. The entire incident was blamed on the translator. Are we to believe that the world wide phenomenon of Obama was unknown by an African translator. Were the translator and question asker not informed that Obama was president now? The question was asked as posed. Incidentally, just for the record, in the language of The Congo, Obama translates as “Obama†and the name Bill Clinton translates as “Bill Clintonâ€. No error was made. The asker wanted to know Bill’s thoughts on the subject but Hillary decided to brow beat those in attendance instead and “blame†some low level translator for doing their job correctly. Bravo!
I’ll have to wait till I go home. They block video hear at work.
“hear”?
She was there to cover up B. Hussein Obama’s birth.
You know it, I know it, and the people of Real America know it!
The rest of the quote for those who might be interested:
Hillary:
“If you want my opinion, I will tell you my opinion. I am not going to be channeling my husband. Trust me on this folks, I did that a couple nights ago and I found myself butt naked in a learjet licking whipped cream off two strap-on laden Asian chicks…not that there’s anything wrong with that.”
Sorry Sy, you were almost funny. You and I know that Willy isn’t into Asian girls, too skinny for his taste.
Yes. Clearly Bill is a chubby-chaser. The only time he has ever been with any asian chicks is when he got hooked up with some siamese twins. He didn’t realize there were two of them because once he heard ‘she’ weighed 205lbs he was as giddy as a schoolgirl.
You know, Hillary had every right to get pissed off. No one ever asked Bill what Hillary thought of policy or world events. No one asks Obama what Michelle thinks of health care reform. Good for her for ripping that dude, even it was a mistranslation.
The fact is that a woman, especially one married to a former president, is not given the same respect a man is. If Bill had been asked a similar question by a reporter for Hillary’s take on those journalists imprisoned in North Korea, we would all accept any “hissy-fit” he would throw as justified.
I hate to keep breaking up this sausage-fest, but maybe you all should consider another perspective.
L3wis,
Yes, but the pickings were “slim” in and on the way back from North Korea, so Bill of course had to sacrifice. Get some skin in the game, ya know.
and Como, I disagree. No one would ask that question to Bill or Barack because niether of their spouse’s has ever been a two term POTUS. Hillary campaigned on the “fact” that she was deeply involved in the Clinton Presidency and would return us to those glory years. Ironic that her core issue of Health Care was first going to be farmed out to Daschle and now it’s basically to any Congress critter willing to advocate it. She’s off the radar, except when she steps in it like this.
A better analogy would be if someone had asked Bush what Poppy would do, but since many of GHWB’s staff worked for or advised GWB, including Poppy, most people would probably assume correctly that Poppy & GWB’s foreign policy decisions would be identical.
Hey, Como, try to keep your penis-envy under control.
And there it is. I was betting on a gay joke, but you went straight for the penis. Very classy, Eric. At least Sy makes a reasonable argument.
Of course, I still understand why Hillary would be annoyed. If you read the post I linked in my last comment, you’d see a pretty clear argument that supports my original assertion.
I did read your post Como. And I stand by my penis comment. If Bills wife were half as smooth as Bill maybe she would have been able to make a joke out of it and embarras the person.
“I hate to keep breaking up this sausage-fest”
BTW, Como, you brought up penis’s. I know. I like mine too.
Sorry Como-
Yes Hillary had a right to be upset, but as our SOS, she could have asked the questioner or translator what he meant instead of going into a tirade. I watched the video, and she didn’t come off very well, she looked like a big snot. It’s not like an English speaking American was asking the question, it was a foreigner, it reminds me of the Russian incident and the bad translation on a gift. Maybe Hillary needs to hire better people to work for her, they seem to have trouble with translations.
It goes on and on, L3wis. Freakin’ amatuer hour in DC.
From Biden’s recent insult to the Russians and their Economy to the Chinese laughing at Geitner when he says out deficits are no biggie to Obama himself giving Gordon Browne useless DVDs and bowing to the Saudi King.
Sooner or later this level of utter incompetence will come back to bite us big time.
At least they aren’t invading countries based on really bad intelligence and forgetting to bring enough troops and supply them properly.
Boy, that would cost us big time…
Dude, half of those folks I mentioned voted to go. Rather enthusiastically as well.
“He must be dislodged from his weapons or dislodged from power.†Joe Biden 2002
“We can call it quits and withdraw from Iraq. I think that would be a gigantic mistake. Or we can set a deadline for pulling out, which I fear will only encourage our enemies to wait us out–equally a mistake.†Joe Biden 2005
and:
“It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well, effects American security.
This is a very difficult vote, this is probably the hardest decision I’ve ever had to make. Any vote that might lead to war should be hard, but I cast it with conviction.” Hillary 2002
And the others weren’t in town at the time.
Again trying to argue by comparison. And a false one at that. A true comparison would be to compare foreign policy between the two administrations while they were in the executive branch.
Since team Obama’s adventure began in the executive branch, how many countries have we invaded or threatened to invade? How many allies have we alienated due to black-and-white “with us or with the terrorists” foreign policy?
If you want to look at foreign policy blunders, little things like Biden’s gaffes or the useless DVDs (which I doubt Obama bought on his own) don’t really hold a candle to going to war on false intelligence. How many soldiers were killed by DVDs?
“…bowing to the Saudi King.
Yea – I can see how that would come back and bite us in the ass. What Obama should have done is just send in some unprovoked B1 bombers along with a few thousand ground troops to find the secret WMDs the Saudis are hiding from us.
I guess thats how you show ’em who is boss and build strong relationships with your allies.
Who’s with me?
Who’s with me?
I am!
USA! USA! USA!
GoD:
“Again trying to argue by comparison. And a false one at that.”
Well, I guess we’ll all just have to wait until another 9-11 type incident so we can have the apples to apples you crave. Until then we should just accept incompetence and mixed messages, right?
Whatever your opinion of Bush & Co. at least the message of “You’re with us or against us” (which Hillary repeated BTW) was clear enough for even the insane to comprehend.
Incoherent or mixed messages and utter incompetance, even the slightest examples, will invite an attack. History is riddled with examples.
Costner:
Americans don’t bow to foreign monarchs because it signifies the monarch’s power over his subjects. Even Miss Manners knows that:
http://books.google.com/books?id=Ju1XvqoMookC&pg=PA697&lpg=PA697&dq=protocol+bowing+Americans+meeting+foreign+monarch&source=bl&ots=5GygELF-FT&sig=51ybqyGmwHAzO8pil6S6ws0-ikI&hl=en&ei=G9LUSbSmJNbfnQe10eHzDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2#v=onepage&q=&f=false
So the bow (which he did twice, BTW) is either a problem that Obama or his staff didn’t understand that simple point, or even worse they did understand that and chose to send a message to the muslim world in particular that America is ready to take it’s rightful place at the back of the line and we are indeed a paper tiger.
I hardly consider a few very minor issues reflective of “incompetance” as a whole. Hell, Bush’s entire eight years included hundreds or perhaps thousands of such minor gaffes – does that mean he was incompetant too?
Scratch that… horrible analogy. On second thought you might be on to something here.
But about that “You’re with us or against us†mantra that was so popular post 9/11… I think that particular mindset did more harm for our image with the rest of the world than any benefit that could be gained from stating it. Even former allies were attempting to distance themselves from us, and that is precisely what Obama is trying to eliminate by communicating with these other nations.
Agree or disagree – you have to admit it is a unique approach, and the impact is yet to be seen.
However I don’t feel this type of behavior invites further attacks. In fact I think just the opposite. We were attacked under both Clinton and Bush and I dare say neither of those had anything to do with incompetance – they had to do with others feeling the US was attempting to control other nations with threats of force and/or resentment of the American way of life.
Thus, if one wished to stretch and make silly assumptions – you might go so far as to say that since we haven’t been attacked thus far under Obama’s leadership, that he has been more successful than the last several Presidents.
I’m the last one to give credit to someone who what hasn’t happened – but if we wish to define what invites an attack, we need to look back at some of the most recent examples. Lucky for us the last one was almost a full eight years ago.
Sy I don’t know what Obama’s intentions were with his gesture, but I’m guessing if he meant to bow it was merely a sign of respect…nothing more.
I guess I just don’t give it a lot of thought, and surely not enough importance to think it is worthy of singling out as a indication of a larger issue. In the scope of things, it is harmless.
It can’t be a whole lot different than Bush walking hand-in-hand with King Faisal at his ranch.
Bahhh! I hit enter too soon.
Those saudis have partnered with the sneaky zionists in an evil plot to bring us down. They subjugated our last president (but never got ol’ deadeye Dick) and have now forced our Kenyan proxy president to bow before them. How long before the rest of us are slaves to these people too?
For fux sake, I caught a bit of ABC news tonight and Hillary was in the Congo I believe today commenting on their recent elections. She said(paraphrasing):
“Well you have to be careful with elections, as you know in 2000 we had an election where it came down to one state, and the brother of the candidate was in charge of that state, so it can happen anywhere.”
I looked for a link, but didn’t see one yet.
The point is, even if you disagree with the SCOTUS decision and the subsequent independent reviews by both the Miami Herald and Washington Post that backed up the actual election results, why the fuck is she on foreign soil basically implying we aren’t any better than a bananna republic?
Like I said, trainwreck.
You see trainwreck, but I see some truth in what she is saying. Practically every election we have incidents of dead people voting, questionable ballots, voter fraud, missing ballot boxes, organized campaigns to defraud, abuses of power etc, etc.
I’m not saying the 2000 election result was flawed by any means, but I’ve learned enough to not be able to say it was entirely legitimate either. I’m sure part of her statement is somewhat based upon sour grapes, but it also seems to be a legitimate concern not only for 3rd world nations.
Hell – I’m not so sure the system Iraq has with having to dip your thumb in purple dye isn’t actually better than our system of checking names and addresses or making people sign an affidavit.
Then again I’m not sure about her context – for all I know she was telling a joke that just happens to be based partly in truth.
Costner,
I found it today, wasn’t up last night.
Take a read and watch this:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=8315671&page=1
I still say these comments did some damage, I thought this were supposed to be forward-looking Admin.
I have to agree with the ABC analysis that said they were undiplomatic comments from a diplomat.
I don’t think she was necessarily comparing the US to Nigeria however as she prefaced her comments by mentioning that our democracy is still evolving. I agree with her on that – we might have a great system in place, but it could be much better.
I actually think the only damage done by her comments were to her own reputation. Surely the GOP will milk this one for all it is worth, and it is just one more thing to use against her if she ever tries to run for POTUS again.
http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlLA/idiot_box/et_tu_jon_stewart_124130.asp
Here is a shortened version from Mediabistro…..Jon Stewart is great, but he and everyone else should do the whole story.
But then Stewart went on to mock Secretary Clinton for her answer, and even went on to perpetuate the unconfirmed theory that the question about her husband was flubbed in translation. Like most news outlets, Stewart didn’t bother to mention the reason Clinton was in the Congo. Fortunately the AP did:
Clinton announced a new package of $17 million in American aid to respond to an epidemic of rape and other sexual crimes directed mainly at women and girls by government troops and rebel groups fighting in the region.
Her offer came after a harrowing meeting with victims of violent gang rapes in a crowded refugee camp on the outskirts of Goma where 18,000 men, women and children have sought shelter from revenge attacks raging in the countryside.
[snip]
One of the two victims Clinton met had been gang-raped after her husband and four children were killed. The other, eight months pregnant at the time, lost her baby and was found by hospital workers in a forest where she had stumbled.
“The atrocities that these women have suffered, and that stand for the atrocities that so many have suffered, distill evil into its basest form,” Clinton said, her voice breaking with emotion. “In the face of such evil, people of good will everywhere must respond.”
Now that’s a quote worth repeating on the evening news. If only someone had…
It’s great to be firm in your beliefs and stick with them. But you can’t be totally inflexible like Hillary either. “This what I want and that’s the way it’s going to be or I’m taking my bat and glove and going home” type attitude. Besides, she has kankles.