Sacrificial Lamb

1. I agree with some of this premise.The problem is the lazy poor who have destroyed the legitimacy of the true working poor. I am not shitting you when I say I was at a government funded apartment tenant who drove a JAG XF. There are some who have landed on this path for reasons they could not control, but their are too many now that have chosen this path for laziest life.
   Again I say there is a difference between a hand up and a hand out. Just look to our wealthy farmers for a good example.
   Go ahead and punch holes in this common sense. I’m used to it. You can deny this is a problem but you are only hurting our children in their future.

   It’s been long past time that the fed and the state kick the lazy asses out to fend for themselves. And I am not talking about those who are truly disabled.

2. You know Medicaid helps the disabled.

3. You would think our Pro-Life Governor and our predominantly Pro-Life legislature would embrace ObamaCare.

4. I remember my sister telling me how a woman in a big SUV yelled at her for using her handicapped parking tag one day. My sister did not look disabled on the outside but was so riddled with cancer and nerve damage on the inside she could barely walk. Until she died her early death, she walked all she could to be able to be able to continue walking.

   LJL’s comment reminds me of the woman in the SUV. At what point do you know all the reasons someone has taken assistance of any kind. Who made you the judge of all. We on the outside do not know what has happened or is happening on the inside.

5. LJL’s sentiment is correct – there is a lot of abuse in the system and I’ve witnessed it firsthand. However, it becomes very difficult to distinguish between those who legitimately need the help versus those who are abusing the system.

   What I find troubling is that so many politicians (predominantly on the right) are so quick to slash funding for social programs as they proclaim there is rampant fraud, yet these very same people never say a word about the rampant fraud in other government handouts such as those that are diverted to the oil and gas industry, those that went to Wall Street during our financial crisis, the numerous multi-Billion dollar companies like Facebook and GE that don’t pay any income taxes, or the “family” farmer who has a net worth of $15M, and who farms 12,000 acres yet receives massive amount of farm subsidies (I’ve seen that firsthand too).

   Same is true when it comes to all of these laws surrounding drug testing for welfare recipients. The GOP has passed laws mandating such testing in numerous states, yet it only applies to those on welfare – never once have they suggested testing those who work for a bank or investment house or automotive company or airline or oil company that has received BILLIONS in government handouts and bailouts.

   I mean come on – if you are really concerned about people using their government funds to buy or use drugs then why do you test someone who collects $600 a month versus the CEO who received $45 Billion in a bailout package?

   So if we want to talk about people abusing government handouts, we’re barking up the wrong tree. I’m all for eliminating fraud, but it should be on all levels – not just on those least likely to defend themselves.

6. I was reading a chart a few years back (wish I could find it) that showed how much the Feds spend on social programs like Medicaid and Food Stamps compared to how much they spend on Military funding overseas. Let’s talk about rampant fraud, it is happening in the building called the Pentagon.

7. LJL – have you ever heard the phrases drawn oin ancient wisdom that have to do with “cutting off one’s nose to spite one’s face”, or “throwing out the baby with the bath-water”?

8. Turn that “cut whole programs because of a few” – “logic” around on the guns issue. Heck just because 30,000 people a year or so are killed with guns – YOU CAN’T TAKE MY GUNS AWAY. I NEED THEM to survive.

   Or even consider the classic dodge from the guns argument “more people are killed by cars – but we don’t ban them”. But, if just a few people abuse a social safety net system – well – we’ve gotta get rid of that whole sucker.

9. LJL’s comments on our safety net are unfortunately too prevalent and common place, and nothing new. But I would still like the Right to explain in depth their position and commitment to issues concerning life. The Left timidly never asks this question, but they should. It apparently ends for the Right with birth.

10. Winston.. I would be more than willing to discuss the RTL debate but it’s a huge problem when people cannot discuss the issues at hand without being sidetracked into other issues.

    Just once people, stay on track with this issue only.

    Craig… We need to stop welfare for all companies and then who they hire or what drugs they take does not matter to us.

    Testor… your sisters aliments are troubling and she deserves some sort of safety net. The flip side is that I know of 4 people in my life who are scamming the government. If you can mow your lawn or go hunting/fishing regularly, you can find a job suited for you. I know of a company looking hard for people to work from home to answer the phones. Work from home and answer phones, that is not a physically demanding task.

    The thing that really gripes me as that many of these people have $100 a monthly cell phone bills and huge cable/satellite bills. I have an employee who has 3 children, lives in a new state funded governor house and refuses to get married because he will have to pay health care and loose government subsidies.

    If you seen the things that I have, you would be disgusted too. If I could take a camera with me, opinions on this issue would change quickly.

11. LJL, my contentions are not a “sidetrack.” Rather this alleged “sidetrack” exposes the moral contradiction which most RTL take when it comes to our nation’s safety net.

12. Ljl I would arrange a visit with the proper authorities and your 4 family members.

13. Funny thing is that sheep is on the cover of the book “Dominion” written by Sarah Palin’s speech writer and Paul Ryan’s speech writer. It’s a book about cruelty to animals.

    I suggest you all give it a read. The writer is an animal rights activist.

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