At the SF city council informational meeting on Tuesday, the topic of ‘siding’ will most likely come up during the EC update portion of the meeting. In fact I am about 100% sure it will, because that is when the administration promised to release a consultant’s report about it.

The bigger question is what did the consultant recommend? I got word today from a foot soldier that a decision has been made and will be announced on Tuesday. What was that decision? Well not quite sure, but the probability of replacement before the facility is open is high. Very high.

IF this is true, it opens up a whole other can of worms, that involve courtrooms and attorneys. Don’t get me wrong, the siding HAS to be replaced, I think that is pretty obvious. And it needs to be done before the place opens, not a couple of months down the road.

So what does this mean? Well there is liability involved when something isn’t done properly, and a lot of times some finger pointing, which usually ends up in court.

Who is going to pay for the replacement? That will probably be up to a judge, but let’s just hope that judge is in the public’s corner.

13 Thoughts on “Will the Events Center siding be replaced?

  1. Dan Daily on July 19, 2014 at 1:05 pm said:

    This is a problem to resolve. The blame game is not necessary. Taxpayers must not be liable. Some would say it’s a contractor problem. If it was spec’s in the original design, it’s the fault of the architect. The firm’s professional liability insurance should pay.
    Courts do not recognize city civil procedures. Case dismissed. At some point, the city should realize ordinances must comply with state law & the US Constitution.

  2. EC Inspector on July 19, 2014 at 1:10 pm said:

    The next questions is: “If this is true, Who will issue the occupancy permit if the siding and corresponding interior work must be redone?”

    There will be 12,500 people in the unsafe building if is not fixed by Aldean time.

  3. Dan Daily on July 19, 2014 at 1:19 pm said:

    The insurance company can case dismiss wiggle out from paying. Looks like the budget for the indoor pool must be reassigned to replace the siding.

  4. The siding isn’t structural support. Has nothing to do with safety.

  5. Concerned Contractor on July 20, 2014 at 3:44 pm said:

    Just because our safety engineer mayor says the siding is only an aesthetic covering so be it.

    But if you are really want to understand how the steel is warping the integrity of the building, you will need to understand the way the building was constructed.

    The siding is not like conventional house siding. It is the side strength of the building. There is no other strong panel to keep out the weather. This metal is creating the current shape / curve of the building. The siding will not keep up the roof but it keeps it strong. As installed, the siding is a major weakness to the long-term health of the building.

    There are very deep issues with the wall stability. As they remove the warped siding, the pressure will be removed from the currently stressed vertical metal studs.

    The relieved vertical framing stress will cause the internal sheetrock, interior attached walls and the suspended ceiling grid to move. From screw heads popping out of the drywall to ceiling panels no longer fitting the now moved grid.

    This will not be a small fix. This will be very expensive for someone.

  6. 85th stuckee on July 20, 2014 at 7:57 pm said:

    If the city accepts completion to meet a concert venue that the architect or builder would have to cover, that’s not okay. Someone such as the bonding company would have to step in and pay for the lost revenue and concert. If Mortenson doesn’t survive as a company, then too bad. The tax payer should not be on the hook unless the mayor or some city goof created a constructive change order to cause this mess. If the architect and engineer did not protect themselves, too bad for them. As far as safety, any thing hanging up in the air attached is a safety concern, that’s why we have engineers and architects who verify suitability of materials, and of course the installation of said materials. If there is a chance the public could be harmed its not good. Remember the high walkway in Kansas City that dropped many people to their death. Not good.

  7. Then why was the siding installed after interior construction was well underway?

    Mole hill expanding are we?

    I guess the building will need to be gutted for the siding. LMAO.

  8. R.B. on July 22, 2014 at 8:57 am said:

    Hmmm… As per AL this morning, the city will not be releasing the independent study done on the siding issues on the E. C. to the city council or the public today.

    Won’t give results to A L. either, although the study was completed and given to the city before July 1? Assistant city attorney (why not Dave?) says the study is not yet “final” and not sure if it would be released at a later date? That must be quite the report to have it squelched like this. There appears to no transparency in current city government, only secrets. When are the people of SF going to realize how corrupt things have gotten since the current administration has come into power?

  9. Ol'Bubbleguts on July 22, 2014 at 2:04 pm said:

    If the OBEY is from John Carpenters “They Live”
    you got me site maintainer.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kic0GGu2UnY

    just found out some of that spiel is from the bible.
    Mike Huether and his ilk perched rearward on top of you
    FROM BIRTH UNTIL DEATH.Not a pretty feeling.
    In art and labor,…
    OBG

  10. Taxpayer on July 22, 2014 at 2:50 pm said:

    I drive by this building everyday. It was obvious from the beginning that there was a problem with the siding.

    Where was Mortenson (construction manager at risk) and why did they not stop this. It is their job to oversee all subcontractors.

    Now, WE AS THE OWNERS OF THE EC AND THE CONSULTANT’S REPORT (Judd Allen Group), are being told by the Mayor and his Administration that we may not see the report at today’s Council meeting and may never see it.

    The answer appears to lie in this statement from today’s AL:

    Peterson, the consultant, said he did not want to comment about his findings before the city releases the report. If it turns into a legal dispute between the city and a contractor, the document could be held confidential, Best said.

  11. Ãœber played on July 31, 2014 at 7:59 am said:

    Here’s what will happen with the siding,first they will put it on the punch list as an item to be fixed, that item will be fixed probably next spring since there is not enough time to get it done before the event center opens. A couple screws here a couple screws there at the joints and we have our beautiful new event center!

  12. Giovanna on July 31, 2014 at 9:03 am said:

    Wtf?

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