I’m a little behind on these, but had a chance to listen today. Episode 8 with Sioux Falls City Councilor Erickson is interesting. If you FF to about 18:40 you will hear Lalley ask about the Bunker Ramp. Erickson tries everything in her power to blowoff the important questions, she even asks Pat at one point to change the topic. Erickson said that it really couldn’t be stopped (construction) because they signed a contract. Pat quickly pointed out that the city could have defaulted on the contract and just paid a penalty. He also pointed out that it is ‘ugly’. She slithered thru the questioning.