These graphs are worse case. However, there needs to be more preparation. First is testing. It’s happening faster. We need masks. Next is beds and defibs. GM is producing instruments at 10k per month. Then, there’s a treatment process being defined. Last is a vaccine but that will take time.
It could be necessary to relax home quarantine. An economic depression is the same if not bigger problem.
The model updates every four days ! Can you phantom a reason why Sanford and Avera would make their need a known ?
Mr. Daily – you seem to be advocating the same rhetorically minimalizing “behind the curve”, business first approach to Mr. Trump.
ERROR.
Don’t go out. Money (the economy – something that exists on paper) is NOT a bigger issue to your and my and all of our very lives.
Mr. Exposure – Hospital capacity is a KNOWN matter of public record. There is no phantomizing at play here. Only fantasizing on the part of conspiracy theorists.
I’m not advocating anything. Once the population can’t subsist without income, many will ignore the quarantine. I don’t agree with Trump but I recognize people will come out and take a chance. Numbers of infected are not as high as for flu. Deaths are a small percentage. We can’t live in individual bubbles months at a time. Those that come out will have high incomes. Those that stay quarantined will go insane and/or starve. It’s gonna happen with or without Trump policy.
Why is Trump meeting with Putin now? Why are there few Covid cases in the Soviet Union? Why have many Putin political opponents been poisoned? Who would release a pandemic to become a greater world power than China or the US? Who might already have a vaccine?
Some of these questions need answers?
For now everyone must be tested. Enough tests are coming about. Those positive must be sequestered with tracking bracelets at home or confined at a special facilities. Hospitals would be reserved for other medical circumstances. They didn’t have enough beds before. Those negative can go on with life as usual. There will be practical treatment for those with the virus. There will be a future vaccine. Enough of this ‘Sky is Falling’ approach. Get real.
Yesterday, NYC set up a field hospital in tents in Central Park (the last time this was done was in the Civil War).
The SD Governor has repeatedly reminded people, this will not reach peak numbers here in our State until the end of May, beginning of June.
Wake Up South Dakota!!
One of the things that concerns me about this crisis is that some could still use our success in fighting this crisis as further proof that it was actually a hoax. And I think you know, who I am talking about, when I talk about some, or one, re-invoking the word “hoax” into this crisis situation.
Even, if the virus is beat by June, the politics of the virus will linger on at least to November; and it will be interesting to see how some, or one, try to mention their success with the virus, while also mentioning that it was a “hoax”.
If we allow this some, or one, to send conflicting messages, then I am afraid that nothing will really have been learned from this crisis; and once again, science will be the answer, but never given the credit, and perhaps even beaten-up once more in the Age of Orange.
Privately, policy makers throughout the world had to have known that the developing virus crisis would run havoc upon the world economy – and thus ruin the oil markets as an example – before they publicly admitted we had a serious problem.
Given that, then why did Putin feel a need to further collapse the oil market pricing by ignoring OPEC’s requests and continue Russia’s then oil production, and increasing it too, in a time like this?
Perhaps, Putin is trying to destroy OPEC and use that new power vacuum in the world oil industry, which would result from a collapse of OPEC’s pricing clout due to recent world production increases, to forge an opportunity for Russia to be the eventual ultimate oligarchy, when it comes to future oil production and pricing, given its vast oil reserves and the future potential political leverage that these reserves could offer to that country.
If you notice, this current oil war is not a traditional battle between Russia and the West, but rather a battle between Russia(Putin) and a Saudi Arabian Prince: and such a face-off speaks more of an attempt to control the oil market, than to just ignore current OPEC’s policies or positions for the sake of cash flow for the Russian import/export business; which is a direct attack on upon the Saudis’ traditional position as the almighty controller of world oil production and pricing, if you ask me.
They often say the best time to rob a bank is when the police are pre-occupied with a greater event. Most likely Putin understands this, and although oil is cheap now, overtime Putin’s alleged strategy, if true, will eventually allow the oil money to come pouring to him and his fellow oligarchs without a siren having ever been heard, as the rest of the world gratefully recovers from a greater event like the current Great Virus.
( and Woodstock adds: “Imagine a Mini-Me that looks like Putin”…. “Putin’s already kind of short”….)
“Those that stay quarantined will go insane …”
Well, the comment section to this post certainly seems rather persuasive to your point.
“… if the virus is beat by June, the politics of the virus will linger on at least to November; and it will be interesting to see how some, or one, try to mention their success with the virus …”
First, let’s acknowledge that beating the virus by June represents an exceptionally best-case scenario. We seem a long distance from best-case.
Nonetheless, the concern which you really express here is that on the other side of this pandemic – whenever that might be – that America will still be great.
Why in the world would success, greatness be concerning to you?
TGfG,
It’s not, but those who politically claim success with this virus will also re-issue the hoax argument, too. You just watch. They, or he, will try to have their cake and eat it, too, at the same time; and it’s imperative that the success be given to who deserves it, and that’s not the one who initially called it a hoax, or showed no past interest in virus concerns when it came to their national security team.
Trump initially called his impeachment a hoax, then survived it and called it a win, but also still a hoax. You watch, Trump’s will do the same with this virus, but the win will really not be his this time, but he’ll claim it, while still having an air of “hoaxology,” which he will be more than happy to expound upon.
The Guy From Guernsey on 03.31.20 at 8:37 pm
“Well, the comment section to this post certainly seems rather persuasive to your point.”
Hands down best post of 2020 so far!!! Tip of the hat Guy.
VSG says, “One of the things that concerns me about this crisis is that some could still use our success in fighting this crisis…..”
Our success? Really? To date – our approach is the WORST of any country.
A unemployment customer service person got mad at me and hung up on me this morning because I had filed on april 1st and they lost my claim ……
These graphs are worse case. However, there needs to be more preparation. First is testing. It’s happening faster. We need masks. Next is beds and defibs. GM is producing instruments at 10k per month. Then, there’s a treatment process being defined. Last is a vaccine but that will take time.
It could be necessary to relax home quarantine. An economic depression is the same if not bigger problem.
The model updates every four days ! Can you phantom a reason why Sanford and Avera would make their need a known ?
Mr. Daily – you seem to be advocating the same rhetorically minimalizing “behind the curve”, business first approach to Mr. Trump.
ERROR.
Don’t go out. Money (the economy – something that exists on paper) is NOT a bigger issue to your and my and all of our very lives.
Mr. Exposure – Hospital capacity is a KNOWN matter of public record. There is no phantomizing at play here. Only fantasizing on the part of conspiracy theorists.
I’m not advocating anything. Once the population can’t subsist without income, many will ignore the quarantine. I don’t agree with Trump but I recognize people will come out and take a chance. Numbers of infected are not as high as for flu. Deaths are a small percentage. We can’t live in individual bubbles months at a time. Those that come out will have high incomes. Those that stay quarantined will go insane and/or starve. It’s gonna happen with or without Trump policy.
Why is Trump meeting with Putin now? Why are there few Covid cases in the Soviet Union? Why have many Putin political opponents been poisoned? Who would release a pandemic to become a greater world power than China or the US? Who might already have a vaccine?
Some of these questions need answers?
For now everyone must be tested. Enough tests are coming about. Those positive must be sequestered with tracking bracelets at home or confined at a special facilities. Hospitals would be reserved for other medical circumstances. They didn’t have enough beds before. Those negative can go on with life as usual. There will be practical treatment for those with the virus. There will be a future vaccine. Enough of this ‘Sky is Falling’ approach. Get real.
Yesterday, NYC set up a field hospital in tents in Central Park (the last time this was done was in the Civil War).
The SD Governor has repeatedly reminded people, this will not reach peak numbers here in our State until the end of May, beginning of June.
Wake Up South Dakota!!
One of the things that concerns me about this crisis is that some could still use our success in fighting this crisis as further proof that it was actually a hoax. And I think you know, who I am talking about, when I talk about some, or one, re-invoking the word “hoax” into this crisis situation.
Even, if the virus is beat by June, the politics of the virus will linger on at least to November; and it will be interesting to see how some, or one, try to mention their success with the virus, while also mentioning that it was a “hoax”.
If we allow this some, or one, to send conflicting messages, then I am afraid that nothing will really have been learned from this crisis; and once again, science will be the answer, but never given the credit, and perhaps even beaten-up once more in the Age of Orange.
Privately, policy makers throughout the world had to have known that the developing virus crisis would run havoc upon the world economy – and thus ruin the oil markets as an example – before they publicly admitted we had a serious problem.
Given that, then why did Putin feel a need to further collapse the oil market pricing by ignoring OPEC’s requests and continue Russia’s then oil production, and increasing it too, in a time like this?
Perhaps, Putin is trying to destroy OPEC and use that new power vacuum in the world oil industry, which would result from a collapse of OPEC’s pricing clout due to recent world production increases, to forge an opportunity for Russia to be the eventual ultimate oligarchy, when it comes to future oil production and pricing, given its vast oil reserves and the future potential political leverage that these reserves could offer to that country.
If you notice, this current oil war is not a traditional battle between Russia and the West, but rather a battle between Russia(Putin) and a Saudi Arabian Prince: and such a face-off speaks more of an attempt to control the oil market, than to just ignore current OPEC’s policies or positions for the sake of cash flow for the Russian import/export business; which is a direct attack on upon the Saudis’ traditional position as the almighty controller of world oil production and pricing, if you ask me.
They often say the best time to rob a bank is when the police are pre-occupied with a greater event. Most likely Putin understands this, and although oil is cheap now, overtime Putin’s alleged strategy, if true, will eventually allow the oil money to come pouring to him and his fellow oligarchs without a siren having ever been heard, as the rest of the world gratefully recovers from a greater event like the current Great Virus.
( and Woodstock adds: “Imagine a Mini-Me that looks like Putin”…. “Putin’s already kind of short”….)
“Those that stay quarantined will go insane …”
Well, the comment section to this post certainly seems rather persuasive to your point.
“… if the virus is beat by June, the politics of the virus will linger on at least to November; and it will be interesting to see how some, or one, try to mention their success with the virus …”
First, let’s acknowledge that beating the virus by June represents an exceptionally best-case scenario. We seem a long distance from best-case.
Nonetheless, the concern which you really express here is that on the other side of this pandemic – whenever that might be – that America will still be great.
Why in the world would success, greatness be concerning to you?
TGfG,
It’s not, but those who politically claim success with this virus will also re-issue the hoax argument, too. You just watch. They, or he, will try to have their cake and eat it, too, at the same time; and it’s imperative that the success be given to who deserves it, and that’s not the one who initially called it a hoax, or showed no past interest in virus concerns when it came to their national security team.
Trump initially called his impeachment a hoax, then survived it and called it a win, but also still a hoax. You watch, Trump’s will do the same with this virus, but the win will really not be his this time, but he’ll claim it, while still having an air of “hoaxology,” which he will be more than happy to expound upon.
The Guy From Guernsey on 03.31.20 at 8:37 pm
“Well, the comment section to this post certainly seems rather persuasive to your point.”
Hands down best post of 2020 so far!!! Tip of the hat Guy.
VSG says, “One of the things that concerns me about this crisis is that some could still use our success in fighting this crisis…..”
Our success? Really? To date – our approach is the WORST of any country.
A unemployment customer service person got mad at me and hung up on me this morning because I had filed on april 1st and they lost my claim ……