Remember this lady? They didn’t believe her either.
I don’t like Washington, I tell people all the time what happens there is of no consequence to us locally. It is an outer space circus land.
But, I have been following the confirmation hearings, at a distance. A Supreme Court nomination DOES affect our lives on a local level and I find it deplorable that Thune & Rounds support Mr. Kavanaugh. We will get to that in a moment.
The one thing I remind people whether you are a Conservative, Moderate or Liberal, shouldn’t matter. We should be very concerned about this process because this is a life long appointment. We can’t vote Mr. Kavanaugh out of office in a few years if he makes bad decisions. He may be there for 30-40 years. The highest level of scrutiny should be given about every aspect of his life. Besides the sexual assault accusations, I have many concerns.
First off, I don’t think there has been enough study done about his years serving President GW Bush (one of the worst presidents ever besides Reagan). I also think he is way to conservative to be replacing Justice Kennedy. What we need is a strong, Constitutional Moderate. NOT a right wing ideologue who wants to put the Supreme Court backwards 60 years.
We must also remember that if the tables were turned and this was a Liberal appointment, the Republicans would be doing the same thing. That is just how Washington works. So when I hear Sen Graham chastise the Democrats on the committee I just shake my head.
But most importantly when we are trying to figure out who is telling the truth about the sexual assault, I remind people of a few simple things.
What does Dr. Ford have to gain by coming forward? What does Mr. Kavanaugh have to gain? He has all to gain, she has nothing but living with her memories of this assault. I guess I would give her testimony more weight based on this.
Maybe Mr. Kavanaugh has blacked this out of his memory, maybe he really doesn’t remember doing it. That is a distinct possibility. But it doesn’t change that it happened, and she is pretty sure it was him.
We already have a misogynist as president, hopefully he will be voted out of office and not serve a second term. But once Kavanaugh is confirmed, we can’t turn back. Remember that when defending his appointment.
Explain constitutional moderate. All judges should be strict constitutionalist and weigh their decisions based on what the law and the constitution of the United States say and not how they think things ought to be. The court does not sway with the political winds – thankfully. But elections have consequences and TRUMP gets to name his appointees.
I’m sure Kennedy disagrees with you that Kavanaugh is not a good replacement for him on the court. TRUMP was very transparent about the judicial philosophy he’s looking for in court appointments. If Kennedy didn’t agree he wouldn’t have decided to retire under this administration. Also, Kennedy and Kavanaugh both start with ‘K’, so there’s another thing in common.
She has nothing to gain? How about hundreds of thousands of dollars in the go fund me appeals in her name. Plus now she will be forever a star/Saint in her liberal world.
I am having a hard time getting past what frat boy wrote in his high school yearbook. How he explained it away was laughable. The woman who was raped passed a lie detector test. Frat boy refuses to take one. Collins, Murkowski, and Flake will have their chance to do the right thing. thune and rounds have already mailed it in.
Well, Mark, believe it or not some people do things out of civic duty and not for money and if Dr. Ford can raise millions to bring awareness to sexual assault, she will not be a liberal saint but an American Patriot.
I often tell people that the model of being a real Supreme Court Justice lies in Justice Brandeis. If you ever have the opportunity to read about him you will understand the duty and obligation of what it means to be a Supreme Court Justice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Brandeis
“The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in the insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding.”
Um, this is still America we are innocent until proven guilty? We are not Communist North Korea. Has there been any evidence that Kavanaugh did this?
None of this about protecting they just don’t want him in the court.
Frat boy has issues with women. Frat boy has issues with honesty. Frat boy has issues with entitlement. Frat boy has issues with partisanship. Frat boy has issues with anger. We need none of these qualities sitting on the Supreme Court. TJ, do believe a frat boy with anger management issues is fit to be a judge? Any judge?
Even if the sexual assaults did not occur, I still take issue with his lawyering for GW Bush. One of the most corrupt administrations this country has ever seen.
Frat boy also cut his teeth with Ken Starr. Google kavanaugh, starr, clinton. See the murky gutter that leads to. The guy is an obvious partisan hack.
In my life time, I have heard allegations of rape made against a governor, a governor’s son, two presidents, and now a Supreme Court nominee. In all cases, it is alleged, but how many of these are actually true and how many more by other political leaders in this country are there, that are not known, and overall how common is this?….
Thus, it begs an other question, that if this is quite common or common enough, then what type and number of sociopaths do we really then have running our country at all governmental levels and on both sides of the aisle?
I once read that, in order, to be a successful CEO, you had to have sociopathic qualities, so perhaps that conclusion sadly answers my final question by analogy….
#WhatTheHell
Well, I understand some of the author’s points on this but, regardless of what you may think, Facts matter. You can always tell the slants on this site by the comments like frat boy in relation to Judge Kavanaugh.
1 – Sen Feinstein had this letter since June/July time yet never turned it over until a week before the vote and Dr Ford said she wanted this handled private
2 – All 4 witnesses she named denied this happened in sworn affidavits, one was her good friend
3 – She lied about being unable to make it because she is scared to fly yet testifed she flys all over the place all the time
4 – Kavanaugh had detailed records from 1982 that show where he was most of the time
5 – She was 15 at the time, meaning should not drive yet could not remember how she got there and how she got home. She could only recall who the people were and what happened and left her friend at the party.
6 -Her own therapist’s notes she used as evidence state it was 4 men, not the 2 she named in her sworn statement.
7 – Minus all the FACTs on Kavanaugh’s side all she has is her word.
Now with all that being said, we are trying this guy in the media and off emotion and the LEFT loves to use this as a tool and I believe they are using it to just delay so there is not vote BEFORE the midterms because if there is, the 10 Democrats in Red states such as Heidenkamp, Manchin, Donnelly, and McCaskill would be forced to vote either for or against. If the vote against him they risk losing re-election by upsetting the voters who supported President Trump. If they vote yes on him they piss off their base and the Democrats don’t show up to vote and they are out. Its a position they would rather not have to take before the election. This is just a BS delay tactic.
Now, this is why this is dangerous, we need to stop trying people in the media before facts come out, especially with sexual assault, rape, etc. If people remember the Duke Lacross Case or the Tawany Bradley cases. Those were both tried in the court of public opinion and both were completely wrong. Both cases brought by a far left POS Al Sharpton.
This whole situation is horrible and if which I believe, are not true and Judge Kavanaugh is innocent, all we did was drag an otherwise decent man through the ringer.
For those who question Dr Fords motives, well I don’t know what did or did not happen to her but, she sure has a shitload of money now via GoFundMe pages, approaching almost 1 million dollars. So yeah she is geting some cash out of this.
Now I am sure I will hear all the bashing of the facts and bring up a bunch of other shit that really has no bearing on the Supreme Court Nomination but, the only thing this author really got right was the concern about how messed up this process is. I agree but, unfortunately, all the stink is coming from the Left because they could not oppose his record so now they smear and delay. Its truly all they have and they are praying they can win back the Senate in Midterms, if not they are screwed.
Ughh,
How come Kavanaugh didn’t call for a reopening of the FBI probe, if he has nothing to hide. Kavanaugh said it should be up to the Committee when asked by a Senator, (which is actually the Republican majority when he speaks of a Committee decision (before Flake acted)), that should determine that, but if you have nothing to hide, then why not proactively call for a further FBI probe?
As far as the allegation of the Democrats sandbagging this rape allegation, well, let me ask you a question: If someone robs a bank but you do not, or the authorities do not learn of the robbery until later, perhaps even months later, does that mean that the robbery never happen?
But then again, our State Republican AG claimed that an unsuccessful hack is not a crime, so maybe I already know your answer to my question.. (Hey, whatever happen with the other outstandings subpoenas on that case anyhow?)
And as far as Democratic “motives,” well, when McConnell would not hold hearings for Garland was that not motive driven, or couldn’t he find room in his “Kavanaughistic calendar” to hold them?
#Biden2020Garland2021
Speaking of Ken Starr, like Kavanaugh, an associate of Starr’s, Starr too has his own sex scandal:
https://www.texastribune.org/2017/12/20/court-filing-claims-starr-and-other-baylor-leaders-helped-student-accu/
I guess it is all karma for their self-rightousness towards Clinton, huh?
Oh, and what is it, that they say about not throwing rocks if you live in a glass house?
JKC – Typical Liberal drivel. This is a delay tactic pure and simple. I am willing to bet you that “regular” people will see through this BS that is being pulled and it will be reflected in the MidTerms.
You failed to refute any of the facts that I threw out there. She is not credible and has ZERO proof dude, zero. Here the story is contradicting and just because someone accuses does not mean we hold everything up and especially at the last hour. This rob a bank analogy has no basis cause the bank was not robbed cause she has ZERO proof. If you even listen to your OWN peeps (Joe Biden) who said the FBI does not come to conclusions they just provide info. The senators can ask all the same questions the FBI could and the reason the didn’t cause its a nothingburger. So once again, it’s about facts and you just came up with a bunch of shit that had nothing to do with facts. This is why I predict the Dems will lose Senate seats vs pick up.
On a side note, the Garland thing was a precedent set by both Dems and Reps to not nominate or act on Supreme Court on lame duck year for president. I believe Senator Schumer said so in the past and it was precedent. When the shoe is on the other foot you are all pissed off when it happens to you. Just like the Nuclear option that Harry Reid imposed 5 years ago and now Dems are regretting breaking tradition cause now President Trump can get 2 on the court maybe 3 if Emporer Palpatine (ginsgerg) dies in the next 5 years, which is likely as she is old as dirt.
The presumption of innocence is imperative in our country and if we lose that we are in deep shit. If Leftists didn’t have double standards they would have none at all. Notice I didn’t say Liberals because at least a Liberal would listen to the debate and hear facts and not convict based on some 36-year-old accusation that has no proof and has been refuted.
Come with facts about THIS case and THIS man or just shut it off. This is why folks like myself have a hard time talking to people like you because you won’t even live up to your own standards.
What should we ALL look for in a Supreme Court justice?
Did frat boy show anything friday that resembled wisdom? No
Did frat boy show anything that would lead us to believe he has an analytical mind? No
Did frat boy show control of his emotions? No
Did frat boy display his far right conspiracy leanings? Yes.
Bottom line? She was believeable. He was not. Is this how 30% of this country plans on uniting with the other 70%? By siding with kavanaugh? Think again.
Once agian facts people facts!!! He already I proved his intellect in previous meeting and his job performance. I wouid be pissed too if I was publicly slandered like that. These items you spoke of are your opinions not facts in the case. God help us if you are ever on a jury you would use your emotions to find guilt ir innocence. I guess expecting a rational response from of leftites on this site is too much. Why don’t you say I don’t like him because he is a conservative, at least I could respect it. All you got is Frat Boy insults.
2 Timothy 4:3
For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
so democrat sociopaths (Ted Kennedy, Bill Clinton, Keith Ellison) are ok but don’t dare get accused- with no evidence- should you be a conservative they couldn’t stop him on the issues so they bring up allegations that can’t be proved / disproved
Matt, they were all elected officials who could be voted out of office or had term limits. Kavanaugh has neither. a SCJ is NO comparison to an elected official. It is a life long appointment. Once he is there, he is there forever.
35 years ago was a different generation. Conduct then was different than now. Until recently, women and men anticipated sexual innuendos at teen beer parties. There was no rape here, it was improper groping. There’s no statute of limitations but maybe there should be. I pulled a girl’s hair in kindergarten. My drivers license should be revoked. I believe the FBI investigation is warranted. If there’s a history of this behavior, it’s a problem. As for me, I’m glad I’m not a senator voting on this decision. Is this a smoke screen to hide Trump from the public for awhile?
Matt has a valid point about the double standards here and yes I understand the voting thing but, Dems have stood by Hillary and Bill through VERY credible accusations and even lawsuits (Paula Jones) and through the fact that Bill lost is law license over the Lewinsky debacle. Hillary came out and said all women should be believed. That only counts for her political opponents and not her husband. The biggest difference in the case with Kavenaugh is that there is ZERO evidence to support the allegations and even her friend did not support her story. So once again pick a lane folks and stay in it and be consistent, don’t fake moral outrage at uncorroborated and unsubstantiated accusations. There are numerous examples of folks claiming something and ruining someone career reputation or even losing their life only to be proven false. Emit Till is a great example guy who was lynched all off a women who swore he was eyeballing her only later to claim it was a lie. Now as Justice Thomas once said famously, this is a high tech lynching, meaning you dont have to have proof anymore just accusations to ruin a career and a reputation. I would think Democrats of all people who supposedly believe in due process and innocent until proven guilty would understand that.
If this is the new norm then I would like to accuse I3wis of assaulting me in a bathroom 20 years ago and ensure I get to speak at your next job interview. Now that sounds stupid but, that is the same logic we are applying here
Facts people facts. Take your emotions and opinions out of it and just look at it what has been presented. She is wrong and the facts back that up!
DS,
Bill Clinton was impeached, only one of two presidents in history, and disbarred for five years.
Matt,
Your logic is lacking. I wrote, “on both sides of the aisle.”
Ughh,
Actually the bank was robbed, because just about every Republcan Senator admits something happen to Dr. Ford.
Oh, and your “nothingburger” comment is very telling. I now know more about you then where the alleged rape happen.
Presumption of innocence,? But isn’t that the reason why the FBI is now doing a further probe to get to the bottom of this, one way or an other? An additional probe that I might add, that neither the Republican Senators nor Kavanuagh wanted.
If the Garland example was established tradition, then why did Obama ever nominate him?
Secondly, your rant about Reid is not logical and is non topical, because it shows nominations getting done and not being obstructed by an “Obstructionist GOP.”
Yellow behind the comment means I’m the editor of the blog.
Once again …prove with FACTS he is guilty, not some lady showing up 36 years later. Dude has gone through 7 FBI background checks and nothing has come up. Now you want another one, this is a delay tactic pure and simple.
Stop spouting off about other circumstances and other cases and refute the facts.
1 – She lied about flying – FACT
2 – Witnesses all support Kavanaugh – FACT
3 – Her therapists notes say 4 guys now its 2 – FACT
4 – All she has is her testimony which is contradicted by his – FACT
We can sit here all day and discuss other cases, both parties, who did what before ect. Lets try to stick to this and discuss FACT. The reason you guys can’t is the facts are not on your side and bringing in other talking points about history are beside the point.
And since YOU are talking a bunch of shit saying you know me because of my Nothingburger comment shows you know nothing about me.
I am very well aware that I have come to a Liberal site to read articles and many I find fascinating but, to attack me personally shows me what kind of person you are that you can’t stand having a rational discussion. How about you just sack up say hey I dont want a conservative on the court because you disagree, at least I will respect your views. Your playing the same game the Dem leadership is playing, we can’t get him on merits so we will drudge up some 36 year smear with no evidence. If this is the new norm and I hope its not then don’t be surprised when the gloves come off and the other side starts doing it to you.
you are right that they all held elective office but that confirms my point democrat electorate that has a double standard their sociopaths are ok- even when they kill someone; but don’t dare be a conservative who can have unproveable allegations made against you
You are so disparate, that now you trying to still my alias to make a point…. That’s quite telling…
1- My educated guess is that rape victims probably don’t like to talk about their experience, that’s why 2/3s of them are not reported. And they especially don’t want to talk about it on national TV…. Hence, the “no fly” affirmative defense.
2- If all of the witnesses support Kavanaugh, then why is his old buddy, Mr. Judge, hiding out at a beachhouse on the Delaware coast?… (Maybe he could use the “no fly” excuse, huh?….(But what about the Biden/Amtrak?))
3- Maybe it was four guys, but two at a time…
4- You have identified “He said, she said,” hence, the need for the FBI to do a further investigation. And why don’t you Kavanaugh apologists want the same standard to apply to Kavanaugh that applied to Justice Thomas? Because when there were new allegations against Thomas, then Bush41 called for a further review by the FBI….. If Kavanaugh has done nothing (burger?), then why do you on the right fear a further investigation?
Oh, and how did I attack you, I would think that you would be proud to associate with the “nothingburger” crowd…. Apparently, not…Who would have thought?
#GetYourOwnAlias
#ElseItsFakeComments
What does the school bond election and a Supreme Court nominee have in common? Liberals cannot handle losing elections.
Liberalism is corrosive to fundamental cornerstones which our country was built on. Unfortunately president Cheeto is speeding up this erosive procees.
2 negatives will never make a positive.
LJL – keep drinking the Kool-Aid. Some of the greatest successes in our country are due to liberal and progressive programs and ideas. Libraries, Public Education, The New Deal, Civil Rights, Women’s right to choose, 40 hour work week, the VA, Medicare and Medicade, Highway system, etc, etc, etc. What have conservatives contributed? Destroying the middle class, reducing worker unions, massive tax cuts to the rich.
She is wrong and the facts back that up!
Really?? She has taken a lie detector test and proven to be telling the truth. Frat boy refuses to take one. Does that tell you anything at all?
Matt,
Your argument is not contemporaneous. Based on your logic, one could justify Trump’s racism as president, because an other president, Thomas Jefferson, was once a slaveowner.
#Its2018Not1969
yeah, that socialist Andrew Carnegie established all of those libraries and that famous progressive, Dwight Eisenhower had the vision for the inter state highway system; it was democrat senators from the south (like Al Gore and William Fulbright) who were against the civil rights movement; and as to programs like the war on poverty that have kept the ghettos in place; and our public education system certainly is leading the world in providing an education- not
Ben Franklin started Public Libraries.
JKS – I was not trying to “steal your alias” I was replying to you on my phone and put that in the name box instead of typing it in the body. So lets be pragmatic and anyone with a brain would know you would not get off your Left leaning box to state the things I have stated, come on dude.
You still never refuted the facts I put out, you just continue to spout off. The people submitted Affidavits stating it was not true.
I do enjoy this blog from time to time and I would encourage the blogger to stick to local stuff since its less partisan but, this is where we are at today. It will be what it will be and in this day and age I will never accept just someone accusing without facts, especially after 36 years. My guess is if he is not confirmed this will just “go away” like most accusations without merit.
I have wasted enough time on the back and forth, I wish you all a good day
mj, Eisenhower would be considered a far left moon bat by your modern day conservatism.
https://youtu.be/Jib1B2cyWpE
The republican party and democratic parties reversed their priorities slowly from the beginning of the 20th century. That was culminated in 1964 Civil Rights Act. I know this must be real hard for you all to digest. The republcan party is definitely not the party of non whites, and now, you can include women. You are already outnumbered and it is only getting to get worse. When you are gone, I will not miss you.
“I do enjoy this blog from time to time and I would encourage the blogger to stick to local stuff since its less partisan but, this is where we are at today”
I would agree, I knew this post would bring out the ‘moon bats’. Just listening to Belfrage’s constant rotation of the 6 same callers over the past 2 weeks has been comical at times but just mostly sad. A guy this morning (who is regular bat sh*t crazy right wing nut) felt God helped Trump select Kavanaugh to over turn Roe V Wade to ‘save the unborn’. It would be virtually impossible to overturn the decision, mostly due to the fact that women who are raped or their health in jeopardy are going to have to have a legal right to abortion. While I don’t agree with abortion as a form of birth control, I have often argued if we would just give out FREE birth control to any American that wants it, we would virtually see abortion disappear. But what do I know, I’m just a ‘moon bat’ liberal 🙂
WP – I hope on November 6th there is a total annihilation of the Republican Party in DC. It will be fun to watch Trump’s head slowly explode when he gets stopped at every corner from a Democratically controlled Congress.
But let’s not fool ourselves, we will still be ruled by right wing nuts in good old SD.
Watching this Kavanaugh crap on TV, is like watching the comedy channel. It was mentioned that we elected a “clown” for President, and now we have a “circus”. I feel the same way.
“Ughh” and “Whatever,”
I totally understand the phone thing, but if facts matter, which they do, you would think that Kavanaugh’s BFF wouldn’t be hiding at a Delaware beachhouse….
Well said and I fully agree Scott. I’ve been quite horrified at the “blame the victim†mentality of those in power.
I was a kid in the 80’s daily spin but just to clarify..it was acceptable back then to put your hand over a woman’s mouth to stifle her screams and attempt to tear her clothes off? Glad we know better now..oh wait
As far as Eisenhower, he wasn’t even a Republican until the GOP nominated him for president. Four years prior, some in the Democratic Party tried to replace Truman with Ike for the nomination. And I think ’52 was the first time Ike ever voted and he even got to vote for himself for Prez, too…. #HowCool…
l3wis- Voter suppresion and gerrymandering are the only reason repugs hold a thin house majority. Oh, and don’t forget the help of trumps BFF putin. In 2012 the Pennsylvania popular vote was won by Obama, yet 13 of 18 congressional seats were “won†by the repugs. Same in Ohio in 2012. 51% of the state voted repug, yet they again “won†12 of 16 congressional seats. Take out gerrymandering and voter suppresion, and the white evangels would not have squat in the house.
Don’t count out Sutton just yet.
Real one: Of all the South Dakotans Governor Daugaard could pick for the South Dakota Board of Regents, why do you think he went here?
Not a career educator, no advanced degree, running his step-father’s business.
Interested in your thoughts.
https://www.apnews.com/a48cf297ead29de705a7a97d397929a7
Warren P,
Do you have transcript of the content of the lie detector test which was administered to Dr Ford. Suggest that you source it and read it (don’t worry, it is exceedingly brief). It doesn’t prove what you think it proves.
And I’m glad this ‘JKC’ / ‘Real JKC’ thing has been resolved.
For a brief time, I was worried that The Red Sparrow of Sioux Falls had been sprung from federal custody and that the ‘Real JKC’ had been abducted by her and Paul Erickson – forced to post as ‘JKC’ from the troll farm located southwest of Omaha.
Either that, or he had taken ill with some sort of fever or distemper. Definitely not himself.
The August 7 polygraph examination, held in a Maryland Hilton Hotel, consisted of a one-page, handwritten statement by Ford, an interview, and two questions: Is any part of your statement false? And, Did you make up any part of your statement? She answered both with a no. The Virginia-based examiner, Jeremiah Hanafin, noted both answers were deemed “not indicative of deception. Hanafin, who lists online that he provides polygraph services in Arlington, Virginia, wrote in his report that two other analysis’ was conducted, both concluding Ford’s answers showed no signs she was lying. One concluded the probability of deception was less than .02%. Ford’s signed handwritten note reiterated her claims of a sexual assault at a house party when she and Kavanaugh were teens.
“I was pushed into a bedroom and was locked in the room and rush onto a bed,” she wrote. “Brett laid on top of me and tried to remove my clothes while groping me. He held me down and put his hand on my mouth to stop me from screaming for help.”
How did frat boy do on his polygraph? Oh…thats right. He refused to take one. You ever wonder WHY?
TGfG,
I appreciate your concern, but I can assure you that all is well. The only sparrows in my life fly between my backyard and the “Taupe Housing Society of Conformity” area of town. And I personally have not spoke to Paul for 15 years….. #IfTheFBICares 😉
“The rumors of my conservativism are greatly exaggerated.” Samuel Clemens
Reliable Voter,
The Linda was Daugaard’s treasurer for Dennis’s two gubernatorial bids. I assume the two political families are very close.
I came up with a very bad and sad joke about this and Kavanaugh by the way, and it goes like this:
“If Kavanaugh doesn’t get the Supreme Court gig, maybe Daugaard can appoint him to the Regents….”
Two questions, Warren ? Two questions ? Neither of them directly probing about the participants and events alleged ? LOL. Even renowned law school graduate and wannabe candidate for Governor (but not an attorney), Terry LeFluer could get that tripe tossed from a courtroom.
No mention of a stim test portion during which the subject is asked to lie (you know, so that you can prove that the machine detects the physiological responses of the subject to telling a lie).
No irrelevant questions ? i.e. “Is your name Christine ?”
Don’t we know how this will transpire? Ford (the accuser) will make a fortune on a book deal. Feinstein will endorse her for political office. The senators who vote on Kavanaugh will be labeled prudes or perverts depending upon their vote. Kavanaugh will become a justice and not be recognized often unless there’s another vote on abortion. We’ll go back to our dull lives until Trump gets caught with another porn star.
Its funny Scott, I’ve gotten more feedback on stuff related to Kavanaugh than anything else I’ve posted.
Looks to be the same way here.
Peter. This is a defining moment. Most women are afraid to report because they are afraid they will not be believed. Just read some of the posts right here. In the face of overwhelming testimony by Ford, there are knuckle draggers who simply will not believe her or millions of others like her.