While the city is correct it is hard to manage panhandling due to the 1st Amendment, they can only solicit face to face and not impede traffic which can mean fines for the solicitor and the contributor;
32-27-1. Yielding right-of-way to pedestrian making proper crossing–Regulated intersections–Violation as petty offense – The driver of any vehicle upon a highway within a business or residence district shall yield the right-of-way to a pedestrian crossing the highway within any clearly marked crosswalk or any regular pedestrian crossing included in the prolongation of the lateral boundary lines of the adjacent sidewalk at the end of a block, except at intersections where the movement of traffic is being regulated by traffic officers or traffic direction devices. However, no pedestrian may suddenly leave a curb or other place of safety and walk or run into the path of a vehicle which is so close as to constitute an immediate hazard. A violation of this section by a driver is a petty offense.
32-27-3. Local ordinances regulating crossing at controlled intersections – Local authorities in their respective jurisdictions may by ordinance require that at intersections where traffic is controlled by traffic control signals or by police officers, pedestrians shall not cross a roadway against a red or stop signal, and between adjacent intersections so controlled shall not cross at any place except in a marked or unmarked crosswalk.
CITY OF SIOUX FALLS ORDINANCE –> CHAPTER 130.000
SOLICITING. Asking for money, objects of value, or soliciting the sale of goods or services with the intention that the money or object be transferred. The goods sold, or services rendered immediately at that time, and at that place.
Soliciting shall include using the spoken, written, or printed word, bodily gestures, signs or other means with the purpose of obtaining an immediate donation of money or other thing of value or soliciting the sale of goods or services.PROHIBITED ACTS:
(1) No person shall solicit in an aggressive manner in any public place.
(2) No person shall solicit on private property without first having obtained the permission of the owner or other person lawfully in possession of the property.
(3)No person shall solicit an operator or other occupant of a motor vehicle while the vehicle is in motion or part of traffic on a street or highway. This prohibition shall not include the advertisement of the sale of goods or services to be accomplished when the vehicle is no longer on a public street or highway.
(4) No person shall solicit by stating that funds are needed to meet a specific need, when the solicitor does not intend to use the funds to meet that need or does not have that need.
130.999 Any person violating any provision of this chapter, for which no other penalty is provided, shall be subject to the penalty provisions of §10.999 (Up to $500 Dollar Fine)
131.001 – Disorderly Conduct:
A person commits disorderly conduct when he or she knowingly:
(a) Creates a disturbance of the public order by an act of violence or by an act likely to produce violence;
(b) Engages in, promotes, instigates, encourages, aids or abets fighting or any similar violent threatening or tumultuous behavior;
(c) Makes or causes any unreasonably loud noise;
(d) Addresses profane, obscene or abusive language or threats of violence to any person present so as to create a clear and present danger of violence;
(e) Refuses or fails to cease and desist any peaceful conduct or activity likely to produce a breach of peace where there is an imminent threat of violence and where the police have made all reasonable efforts to protect the otherwise peaceful conduct and activity and have requested that the conduct and activity be stopped and explained the request if there is time;
(f) Fails to obey a lawful order of dispersal by a person known by him or her to be a peace officer under circumstances where three or more persons are committing acts of disorderly conduct in the immediate vicinity which acts are likely to cause substantial harm or serious inconvenience, annoyance or alarm;
(g) Loiters, crowds or congregates on the public streets or sidewalks so as to unreasonably obstruct or interfere with pedestrian or vehicular traffic or use thereof or so as to create an unsafe condition for vehicular or pedestrian traffic or use of the street or sidewalk and who fails or refuses to disperse and move on when ordered to do so by a police officer;
As you can see, the city has plenty of ‘tools in the toolbox’ to combat illegal panhandling yet the only thing they (whoever they is) seem to be doing is putting up random traffic marquis for 24 hours and calling it good. Cruise control government, once again at its finest. I think we should give the panhandlers the addresses of all the city councilors and mayor and drive them to those neighborhoods to set up shop. I bet you could raise a lot of money on White Church Lane.
(MLZ contributed to this post with ordinance references)
Don’t forget, people aren’t allowed to camp at the 85th Street Walmart either. So, panhandling south of 57th might be a problem. Even TSC donuts and Trump t-shirts can’t be bought down there. No white tents allowed, just white churches, I guess.
( and Woodstock adds: “‘White Church’?”…. “That doesn’t sound too PC to me”…. “Rainbow Lane sounds much better”…. )
“Say, what about a non permit white SUV support parade on Church Lane?”… “They must be legal, huh?”…
There are ordinances that can’t or shouldn’t be enforced. Panhandlers cant pay fines and would fill the already crowded jail. Give them a few warnings and (later) a ticket. Not reporting for a court date invokes a warrant. Sentence can be paying the ticket, community service, or accepting a ride to city limits and not returning. Anything more is unusual punishment.
There’s going to be panhandlers. If they’re not impeding traffic or trespassing, just accept it.
I was at a city in CA. A fast food place had 2 tacos for a dollar. I distributed a dozen sacks (2 in each) and a cheap case of water to hispanic migrants beside Walmart. The next day they had moved on. Sorry, I can’t listen to stomachs growl.
NEWS FLASH…You can ticket a panhandler all you want but they don’t care and we don’t want to waste the money to jail them.
I sold a car to a person one time, who then went and panhandled his way to finish paying off the vehicle, He owed me something like $180 dollars, and he went and collected $200 on the streets in less than 2 days. I was impressed. He had bought a vehicle from me for a measily $625 dollars..
There is the occasional panhandler at your 85th St and Minnesota Ave Walmart.
To my knowledge, however, “The Trump Store” merchants have not set up shop near the 85th St and Minnesota Ave Walmart.
Rather than this being a matter of municipal prohibition, this is more likely a result that the merchants know well their target audience.
The demographic slice of republicanism with which their business aligns is more redneck (Florida/Georgia) than Taupevillian.
I am seeing a gentle trend south of 57th St – Taupevillians beginning to paint over those ‘Jeb!’ political signs with ‘(Re-)Mitt 2024’.
Which Mitt are they supporting? The Mitt who called Trump a fraud, the Mitt who wanted to be Trump’s Secretary of State, or the Mitt who then voted to impeach Trump?
Speaking of a target audience, they seem to ignore the Target parking lot, don’t they?
The Louise Walmart is a United Nations. It’s only a matter of time, however, before the Trumpsters there will try to build a wall there with the help of Bubbles and some shopping carts.
When it comes to rednecks, I’ve always preferred the Floridian ones. They tend to be more tan and without a true red neck.
It doesn’t surprise me either, that Taupevillians prefer Mitt. Because many there probably have elevators, too, so they can park their cars in their underground garages.
“Jeb!” is so 2015.
(….”Uh yeah, we’re all out of them XXXLs in that t-shirt, but let me check our Trump Store on 85th Street”…. “There inventory doesn’t seem to move as fast and the clientele there tend to be more petite”…. )
“…Is an occasional panhandler like a part-time worker, who sometimes just can’t make it with one job?…”….”And I would think that t-shirts promoting an orange movement would sell well in front of OrangeTheory”….”And aren’t Trumpsters like big time chislic lovers, too?”…
“convict” and not “impeach”.
Most panhandlers lost their job because of Covid. People without work lived week to week and some became homeless. Before Biden they had no stimulus help. There were few beggars before. There’s demand now that means jobs. There’s more pay scale. This will get corrected. Meanwhile, some of us must be good samaritans.
If you read carefully, you will see that the driver’s who are donating can also be charged, that’s what I am getting at.
“Which Mitt are they supporting?”
Any one (or perhaps two?) of those multiple Mitts which you mention.
This is the beauty of Sioux Falls republicanism and supporting squishes like Dusty Johnson … Mike Rounds … Paul TenHaken.
There is always something which you can proudly hold up as justification for support. Hell, even Democrats find reason to love Jeb! and Mitt and Dusty.
None of these pols have any sort of guiding principles. Government should be small and limited … except when it (government) is getting larger and reaching to provide welf… ahem, incentives and tax credits to selected individuals operating select business entities.
‘ “Jeb!” is so 2015.’
Yes. Even Jeb’s son has realized this. Now a candidate for Texas AG, in launching his campaign George P. Bush is courting the support of DJT.
To some this is viewed as a total dissing of his father and the rest of the Bush family. Rather, this is just indication that George P. has received the squish gene from his father.
When he becomes Governor of Texas, George P. will flip to renounce something Trumpian (perhaps something associated with DJT Jr?).
Remember when Mitt was (at least according to Trump legend and lore) on bended knee, begging the support of DJT?
Oh yes, and don’t forget too, that it was old man Bush, Bush41, who called Reaganomics: “Voodoo Economics”, then he lived it for eight years, then got elected on it, but then raised taxes and lost. Or, how about Bush41’s move from a pro-choice to a pro-life position on abortion? The Bushes like to adapt and then eventually crash and burn. The Bushes are the most overrated political dynasty in history. If it wasn’t for Reagan, a tank, and some butterfly ballots, what would you have?
Does Trump need glasses? How could Mitt and Stormy be confused?
You need to point out where the law states the infraction is on the driver. I see no language that points that out.