Of course only in South Dakota would we have people against saving Americans, hospitals and employers billions on healthcare;
As Dean spoke, Melvin VandenTop, 53, of Sioux Falls stood to protest the hearing as a tool to squeeze certain Americans out of needed care.
“This is genocide!” he shouted.
The only thing that is genocide is the millions of Americans each year who die or suffer from the lack of having proper healthcare.
Barry Zachariahs, 55, listened to speakers at the Terrace Park rally.
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“Overall we have a system that has worked well,” he said. “Why do we have to go and have a virtual government takeover of it?”
Hey, Barry, can I have some of that Medical Mary Jane you are smoking? Of course, the BS gets deeper, when you have a doctor who is in private practice and owns his own clinic opposed to it. Dr. Curd who would probably lose millions in profits each year due to a National Healthcare System had this lie to spread at a kook rally yesterday;
“Do we change the entire system for 7 percent of the population?” He asked.
BAHAHAHAHA! Nice figure, “DR.” I found this story about poverty basically proving Curd is full of shit;
Sioux Falls-based Voices for Children says 33,000 people younger than 18 – or 17 percent of all children in South Dakota – live below the federal poverty line of $21,027 for a family of four.
Yeah, I suppose all of them are receiving world-class healthcare? The only thing that is leading these rallies against National Healthcare is greed.
Having had 7 major surgeries in as many years, my health care provider has become the VA. What most people do’nt realize is that once you have a problem, health insurance companies raise premiums 8% every quarter. My insurance was 20K/year when I quit. Even with health insurance, there are deductables and costs. I had to increase my deductable to 5K just to get insurance. Hospitals are owned by insurance companies. You’re outside costs can be as much as what full service costs in other countrys. If you contest anything they super inflate everything and take you to court. Most collections agency versus individuals cases in the paper are these. Hospitals claim they are losing money when in fact they use this artificial loss against profits. It’s not health care, it’s a business crime syndicate. European countries offer some kind of health care to citizens who can’t afford it. It’s time to offer something basic to all citizens in the US.
It’s beyond time. This needs to happen this year. I can’t wait to call my private insurer and cancel.
They don’t just hike your costs because you have claims, they hike them for everyone by about 8% every year.
If only the same thing happened with income.
They have raised mine twice this year already without reason. They are robbing Americans blind. I think the quickest way to have healthcare reform is to make a law that says no hospital, clinic, private practice doctor, drug company, insurance company, etc. can make a profit from caring for the sick.
The president of the AMA was on CNN today at lunch, and he said the AMA now supports a public insurance plan, similiar to medicare.
I understand what you are saying Lewis as it seems perhaps a little pathetic to profit from the misfortunes of others, but where do we draw the line?
If companies cannot profit from necessities, does that mean nursing homes and retirement homes all have to be non-profit? Does the government get to set the salaries for doctors? (If so I don’t want to be going to the doctor knowing his second choice of a career was a mailman but failed the exam) Do we not allow contractors or clothing designers or chefs to profit since housing and clothes and food are all necessities?
I guess this is just a hard concept to understand. Originally this government plan was merely an insurance plan, but it wasn’t intended to change hospitals or doctors or drug companies. If you try to control them all, innovation will be almost non-existent because when you take away the profit, you take away desire. Say what you will about our drug companies, but there is no way we would get innovation at this level if they weren’t making money doing it. If there is no money in something (such as a new smallpox drug), then it is never developed.
Costner, there is a difference between ‘reasonable profits’ and raping people.
I was at the forum yesterday and watched Melvin interrupt Dr. Dean. An elderly voice behind me muttered: “Even I know that guy (Melvin) is full of crap.”
What I heard on the panel yesterday is just a small portion of the overwhelming concerns and heartbreaking experiences of everyday, hard working South Dakotans. This is not a “gimmee something free” deal – this is the insurance industry and their quest for huge profits — dropping sick people. This is just trying to get to a place where as many people can be insured as possible, as reasonable as possible.
I maintain single payer option would be most cost effective, but that doesn’t appear it’s going to happen. Bought off politicians such as Sen. Feinstein or Sen. Lieberman must really be getting a healthy amount to sell their soul, er, vote for a Public Option and to tune out the experiences the American people are bringing to them and the situations that could happen to ANY of us.
The Yahoos at the July 2nd revolt — it could happen to them. Tea bags must have had to have been stuffed in their ears to tune out what is happening to people all around them. More Americans die and suffer due to the health care crisis today than the fear mongering of a terrorist attack on our soil. They consider war just — but turn a deaf ear and a blind eye to a real crisis.
Then they wonder why women who live in poverty or are working poor would want to have an abortion from an unplanned pregnancy? Because nobody can afford to feed or insure their kids anymore. They said that this would be the first year in America that insurance premium costs will exceed food costs.
there is a difference between ‘reasonable profits’ and raping people.
Hey, 4 out of 5 people enjoy gang rape…
I have no problem if hospitals and clinics make money. That money stil flows through our economy like anything else.
My problem is that the costs to insure people against sickness and injury are far exceeding our ability to continue to pay for them. Insurance (decent insurance) is out of reach of far too many people in this country. We’re the wealthiest nation in the history of the planet, yet we can’t manage to get decent healthcare to all of our citizens? WTF? Something has got to give here, and if the insurance companies and providers won’t budge, the government will undercut them.
Change or die, bitches.
After hearing Dr. Curd was at this meeting, my opinion of him went way down. I have doctored with him, and my daughter has doctored with him. He is a good doctor, but I don’t think he has a real good bedside manner, at least in the clinic—I don’t know how he would be with a patient in the hospital. I guess if he is afraid of losing money, maybe he should have been working, instead of appearing at this “ruckus.”