SF City Council

Sioux Falls City Council folds like a wet paper bag

At the meeting tonight the council decided that after councilor Brekke shot holes in their pay raise proposal and offered an amendment to reduce the pay raise by $30K (Proposal was $195K reduced to $165K and it is currently $130K) they voted for her amendment.

They did it, because I would assume they got an earful from constituents over the past week about how ridiculous the original proposal was. Even people I talked to over the past week that have no clue about what happens at city hall scoffed at a 30% pay increase and the fact that the mayor accosted me in the lobby of Carnegie Hall about it. Someone asked me, “What’s his deal?” I responded, “You would have to ask his chiropractor, or his pastor, I think they are one in the same.”

They passed this amendment to save face in hopes that citizens will vote for the lesser increase and they might, it certainly is more palatable.

I still reject it because little to no research was done on the original proposal and the whole thing needs to be thrown out. It was pretty freaking obvious the original proposal reflected a $1 per resident, which is something a 3rd grader would have concocted, or former Councilor Rex Rolfing.*

I’m glad it was reduced, but it was only reduced so it has a better chance of passing. I have already talked to some people with a strategy on how we will inform the public to vote this down. The council needs to go back to the drawing board.

In other news I have heard a couple things through the grapevine;

• There may be a group working on initiative to throw out Home Rule Charter in Sioux Falls. I am absolutely NOT involved, but I would be willing to support them in anyway.

• There is also talk that two more mayoral candidates may emerge. I am told both are male and Republican. I may know one of them, but uncertain who the other candidate is. I know there is a lot of frustration with Paul’s cruise control government in the business sector.

*In the past during a working session in which the council was discussing swimming pool fees, Rolfing pulled a number literally from his his behind, in which Erpenbach chewed him out about how he came up with it. She basically told him the numbers have to be based on study and research not what happens between his ass cheeks (she really didn’t say that, but she was pretty PO’d).

UPDATE: Sioux Falls City Councilors work 30 hours a week? LOL!

As a person who actually has followed council legislation for around 20 years, I am pretty good at calculating how much ‘work’ is put into the job. But some of them seem to pad the numbers;

Most councilors have outside jobs and work at least 30 hours a week for the city. Doing the math at the current pay, a city councilor currently makes $12.57 per hour.

I’ll guess the reporter didn’t come to this estimate on her own, I’m sure it is what she was told. I will admit I have known councilors over the years that have committed way more then 30 hours a week to the position, there are at least three of them now that put in at least that or more. But if you just calculate face time on the dais (official public meetings) with actual interaction with constituents, the math comes to about 10-15 hours a week. There are three things I would consider ‘work’ when it comes to councilors time; 1) Public meetings, 2) research, education, document review and legislation creation and 3) responding to constituent phone calls and emails. Going to community events and eating free donuts and lunches with business people that are trying to influence your vote doesn’t fall under ‘work’ more like a fringe benefit. It’s easy to figure out who fully spends time doing these things and those that don’t just by watching discussion and how easily things pass. I think some councilors think ‘work’ is concocting deals behind the scene with each other and business friends is part of the job, I know the last mayor certainly thought that, but that is a perk and NOT a job duty.

I just find it extremely ironic that one of the laziest councilors who hasn’t had an original idea since he graced the dais is the one proposing a 30% raise.

I also don’t think the salary of councilors is what is holding people back from running;

Sioux Falls City Councilor Marshall Selberg hopes to attract more people to public service in the future, as Mayor or on the Council.

“We want the best and the brightest in this job, and quite frankly, compensation as a part of that conversation,” said Selberg.

It is what it costs to run for the office that seems to break records every election cycle that is a deterrent. Jensen raised $127K and only beat Stehly by under a 100 votes. How does an average person like a mechanic or call center rep even compete with that? They can’t. They don’t want these kind of people on the council and that is why the banksters, developers and bondsters pad the campaigns to keep the average citizen off the dais, it happens in school board races also. I have argued for a long time that the city races should be publicly funded to even the playing field and base the campaigns on the best ideas not who has the most yard signs. Money in the local races is the rot that is holding back true constituent advocates. Just think if we took that 30% raise ($245K increase in the first year) and spent it on publicly funded campaigns instead? I think we would get much more bang for our buck.

UPDATE: This is some research I did in 2018 about director pay.

I also sent this email response to Mike Zitterich and the city council after Mike suggested we base Mayoral pay on CAFR;

Mike, Let’s look at some data.

Average median pay for individuals in Sioux Falls is $33,500

Average CEO pay is $143,000 (9%)

Highest CEO pay is $182,000 (4%)

Highest percentage (20%) is $80,000

But public leadership should NEVER be compared to private leadership. CEO pay is based on how well a company’s profits perform. The city is not a ‘company’ it is a ‘service’. I tell you all the time, local government is easy, collect taxes, provide services, be transparent.


If you compare mayoral and city manager pay in the region (Fargo, Des Moines, Lincoln, Omaha and Minneapolis) it varies between $100-$200. Minneapolis mayor makes $126,000 with a population of 430K+ but the 13 city councilors run the city and he only has jurisdiction over the police.

There are different forms of government so it is complicated, but as far as I can tell no one bases pay on the population or the CAFR. It is pretty obvious that the SF proposal is based on paying the mayor $1 per person and not on actual regional data.


Even if you look at director pay in the region for example Lincoln, NE which has a population of 283,000 about the highest a director can make is around $150,000 with most in that $80-90K range.

Let’s face it, if this would have been researched better and an actual comprehensive study was done (I did basic research in 1 hour), the result would be that the mayor and council is already being well compensated and further more that directors make quite a bit more regionally, this is without factoring in the lower cost of living in Sioux Falls. Does anyone actually believe the mayor’s salary should be 6X more than the average citizen in this community? I don’t and I would suggest you withdraw this proposal and start from scratch with real data and study before you experience the humiliation at the ballot box when most voters will reject this handily.

Thanks Dad!

Either Sioux Falls Mayor Paul TenHaken wants to be my youth pastor, fitness instructor or my adoptive dad because he had a lot of fatherly advice for me as I left the meeting last night, to which I replied, ‘Thanks Dad!’ He sarcastically told me that I had a lot of constructive input (he purposely walked out of the meeting during my general public input and waited for me to leave the meeting in the lobby with two other tough guy city employees). While being extremely thin skinned (which I always knew) he is starting to turn into the last mayor who used to like to accost people after the meetings in the parking lot. I called him ‘Picking fights Mike’. Maybe Poops needs to look into getting a Medical MJ card so he can take something to relieve his stress?

I have often been puzzled why elected officials take criticism about policy so personal? It has nothing to do with you personally, it has to do with your policy decisions as a paid public official in that capacity. If you want to wear sneakers and have a mohawk, I really don’t care. Plow the streets and fill the potholes Converse All Star.

I think what triggered his frowny face was when I testified against raising the mayor’s salary and the salaries of the city council 30% in one year. They already get inflationary raises (you know, like the rest of us and union city employees). The argument from do nothing councilor Marshall Selfish is that the Mayor should get paid the same as the directors and he is the CEO of the city and that most CEO’s in Sioux Falls make $260K a year. That is actually the top of the scale in Sioux Falls, it averages around $140K. (The mayor makes $130K now and they want to raise it to $195K – Ironically $1 per resident – where the number really came from. How 3rd grader of them). Either way, the Mayor is NOT a CEO and should not be compared to someone running a for-profit corporation (I also pointed that out and that the directors get paid too much). I still think this will fail at the ballot box by over 60%. If the mayor doesn’t like what he makes as the mayor, maybe he can just resign and return to the private sector. He certainly isn’t doing us any favors especially when he is cocking off to constituents in the lobby of Carnegie (That’s usually a 2nd term thingy).

I was also very vocal on other issues like the attorney bounce back rule (ridiculous). This was the testimony that seemed to put Poops over the top. He stared me down for several minutes when I returned to my seat and called me some name by mouthing it at me. I couldn’t make it out but I’m sure it wasn’t GOOD JOB. I was surprised he could even do that with 12 Werther candies in his mouth. But I’m no DUMBASS, I know Poops hates public input, it seems to enrage him.

I have never understood why people run for office then get upset when citizens are critical of the jobs they are doing and wondering why they don’t get paid more. If it bothers you that much, please resign immediately and go back to the private sector where everyone stuck their nose up your ass because you signed their pay checks. In the public sector, we are your boss, not the other way around.

SIDE NOTE: A citizen who attended the meeting last night parked in an open parking spot right behind Carnegie (where they normally park for meetings at around 5:45). They told me when they parked there was NO tow away bag on the pole, but when they got to their car after the meeting the bag was there. They just drove off (no ticket on windshield) and this morning the bag was gone. This citizen spoke also at the meeting and not in a praise be god sorta way.

I also spoke during public input at the 4 PM Informational Meeting about affordable housing towards the end of the meeting.