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Ironic Johnny votes to delay troop funding (H/T – Helga)

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“I pulled the flag pin out of my ass long enough to vote against troop funding”

I’m starting to think that Thune doesn’t vote right or left, he votes anti-Obama. If Obama proposed the official popsical of America be blueberry, Thune would vote against it. He is truly an obstructionist of the highest order. While I think we should GTFO of Iraq and Afghanistan, I just find it ironic that Mr. Flag waving, let’s kick camel jockey ass, would vote against troop funding.

Everybody knows the health care debate has become more and more contentious, and dominated by a Republican parliamentary effort to delay the debate. But an under-appreciated aspect of this whole controversy – exceedingly rare, if not unprecedented — is the fact that it’s even affected defense spending, with Senate Republicans having worked to hold that up, too!

Late on Thursday night, the Senate voted 63-33 to break a Republican filibuster of the defense appropriations bill. Only three Republicans voted against this delay of military spending: Kay Bailey Hutchison (TX), Olympia Snowe (ME) and Susan Collins (ME). The filibuster was part of a Republican effort to further delay the health care bill.

So think for a second about what happened here. The Senate GOP sought to hold up military spending — and not because of an argument with the defense appropriations bill itself or something in it that might have been offensive to them, but in an attempt to block a domestic political debate. It was an especially interesting position for a party that repeatedly accused then-Senator Barack Obama, during the 2008 campaign, of trying to “defund the troops” when he voted against a military funding bill because it didn’t include a timeline to withdraw from Iraq.

Is there even a precedent for this sort of thing? We put that question to Thomas Mann, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, and also asked whether it would be accurate to look at this and say that funding for the military was being held hostage in a domestic political dispute.

“Let me put it this way. Strange things often happen at the end of congressional sessions, especially in the Senate,” Mann said. “Those seeking to block action are even better positioned than usual. But I have never seen a Senate minority act in so unified and extreme (though ultimately unsuccessful) a fashion to deny the president a vote on his highest domestic priority. It is entirely accurate to say that troop-funding was being held hostage to a domestic political dispute. They gambled that a successful filibuster on the defense bill would force the Democrats to defer health reform until next year. They lost.”

But what would have happened if there hadn’t been 60 votes to cut off debate on the defense bill? Would defense spending have been held up? Mann said that in that case, Republicans would have ended their filibuster — but only once it became clear that Democrats wouldn’t be able to keep their Christmas-eve schedule on the health care bill. Another possibility could have been the use of short-term funding bills.

We asked Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell whether it was appropriate to hold up passage of a defense bill as part of a domestic political battle. McConnell spokesperson Jennifer Morris directed us to this statement by McConnell at a Friday press conference: “Now, the defense bill will pass; it just won’t pass as quickly as he [Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid] would like for it to pass. But he’s in charge of the schedule. He’s got the debt ceiling hanging out there. He’s got the defense bill to pass. And he’s trying to jam the American people on this mysterious bill that no one has seen before Christmas.”

The Democratic National Committee has signaled that Dems could use this to political advantage in 2010, with a national cable TV ad: “Republicans are so desperate to block health reform and protect their special interest friends that they delayed funding for our men and women in uniform. Then they voted against it. Tell Republicans to stop playing politics with health care. And to stop playing politics with our troops.”

Let’s see whether this one sticks in 2010, and whether the Democrats keep it up as a political attack.


South DaCola’s top story of 2009? Ironic Johnny’s connection to the ‘C’ Street Mafia and his refusal to support rape protections for women

Still amazed that the SD MSM hasn’t touched this story with a 10 foot pole. Are they protectionists of Thune’s record? One wonders.

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These are the stories that they think were ‘important’ in 2009.

Here are the top 10 news stories of 2009:

1. Statewide smoking ban

2. Sanford-MeritCare merger

3. State balances budget

4. Deputy Mechels killing

5. VeraSun plants auctioned

6. NSF authorizes money for Homestake

7. Legislators pass openness law

8. H1N1 claims at least 21 lives in South Dakota

9. Rising rivers

10. Hyperion air permit

Rising rivers? That’s called ‘the Spring Thaw’. Dumb.

Franken hands Ironic Johnny his ass, then the big dope crybaby stomps out

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Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) and Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.) sparred sharply on the Senate floor Monday evening, a departure from the usually dormant speeches in the august chamber. Franken said he was struck by a speech in which he said Thune had refused to highlight when benefits to the health care bill would kick in and instead emphasized the negative parts of the bill. “You know, again, we are entitled to our own opinions, we’re not entitled to our own facts,” Franken said, his booming voice rising. And in a reference to a chart Thune held up, Franken said: “If you’re going to hold up a chart that says when taxes kick in and when benefits kick in, you say 1,800 days, you better include the benefits that do kick in right away.” Thune, No. 4 in GOP leadership, asked the freshman Democrat to yield for a question, and asked: “Did the senator from Minnesota, when I was pointing out the chart, understand the point I was making – that the tax increases start 18 days from now, and that the benefits, the spending benefits under the bill which are the premium tax credits and the exchanges that are designed to provide the benefit that’s delivered under this bill don’t start until 2014?” Franken responded sharply: “Does the senator understand that spending benefits start right away?” To which, Thune said tersely: “If the senator missed the point, I can get the chart out again.” Franken said: “I asked a question, senator. I yield to you for a question. I’m asking a question.” Senators typically argue in less direct terms on the floor, and a sharp exchange between a freshman senator and a member of the other party’s leadership is unusual. Franken laid out a series of benefits he said would kick in right away. When Thune tried to ask a question, Franken yielded his floor time to Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) instead. Brown accused the GOP of siding with insurance companies, and when Thune tried to ask Brown a question, Brown said the Democrats had already given the Republicans 30 minutes to argue their points. “We have our time,” Franken said. “Sen. Thune wants to monopolize our 30 minutes,” Brown said. Thune again tried to interject, but Franken refused to yield to Thune for a question.

At which point, Thune left the floor. Franken continued his speech, saying Thune “doesn’t want to hear” that benefits kick in sooner.